OBAMA IS NOT BEING “SWIFTBOATED”, HE IS BEING “SWIFTBOOTED”
Democrats don’t understand how one small add knocked kerry out of the race in 2004. They think it was the attack that was the problem for Kerry. In reality, it was the truth which was exposed in the “swiftboat” ad that knocked Kerry out of the Presidential seat.
This election cycle, they respond, as Obama did today with this term: “I will not be swiftboated”, missing the mark by a thousand miles.
Obama is not being “swiftboated”, he is being “swiftbooted” off the stage which he thought he owned.
Now instead of apologizing for the “PIG” remark, they are attacking everyone else still not realizing what the “swiftboat” ad was all about. Now they try to pretend it was not offensive, since everybody else used the term.
Posted by Republicanpundit
September 10th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
What a hoot that Obama is!!!!
September 10th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
When is he going to stick his fingers in our faces like Bill Clinton and say “NO, I did not call that woman a pig”.
Sure. And dang, aint it funny that his own audience thought he had, and that’s why they erupted with applause.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Or, “I did not have sex with that Pig”
September 10th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Swift-booted indeed.
Problem is we now have to maintain this level of excitement and what not though till November, a tall order for the GOP base that is going to have to just cringe and bare it when it comes to the debates and Johnny starts talking about capntrade and amnesty with securing the border first.
The great news is there are some early signs the Palin Effect is starting to trickle down to close house and gov. races, we’ll not pick up seats but an opportunity exists to not lose many more.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
KH, won’t be difficult…
We haven’t had as successful a VP Candidate EVER!
She makes McCain look less like McKennedy /McAmnesty and more like McReagan
September 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
KnH.
I was not enthusiastic at all, but now am energized. I think most people are.
Obama has ridden his celebrity as far as it will go, I think Sarah’s celeb status will last at least through the election. I hope so.
September 10th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Offensive? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w
..for McCain using the identical phrase about Hillary Clinton.
September 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
BB, you are so right! And if Hillary had made a joke about the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull is lipstick, while standing up as a self described hockey mom, it would have been seen as an insult to her.
That and McCain’s actual conversation in context was not about Hillary but the health care program that was being recycled.
Unlike Obama’s campaign stump speech, and the folks in the audience who ‘got it’.
That dog won’t hunt because the pattern is established. We believe he meant what he said because it falls within the larger framework of his previous behavior.
September 10th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Then Obama clarified by saying McCain was the pig, and Palin is the the lipstick.
File this under “Democrats Strike Bottom, Start Digging”
September 11th, 2008 at 10:35 am
I reviewed the context of the statements of both gentlemen and find no difference whatever…they use an old aphorism to describe the POSITION of thier opponent.
As for “That dog won’t hunt because the pattern is established” I agree. It has been established by Mr. Karl Rove and his unthinking sycophants suck it up. He can make manure sparkle. I cannot believe McCain would use him..McCain was a man of honor…..watch both vids again in their context.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:42 am
I don’t believe Karl Rove works for McCain. He is employed by Fox News at this time.
Please do not try to blame Republicans because Obama stepped in shit.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:46 am
As a good logical rightwing conservative, surely you have read Lipstick On A Pig by Torie Clark?
“She has served as the press secretary to Senator John McCain and held positions on the staff of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. She subsequently moved to the Pentagon to serve as the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs during President George W. Bush’s first term in office, under Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. Clarke currently serves as the Senior Advisor of Communications and Government Relations for Comcast Corporation.”
Of course Cheney used the term a number of times as well. RP is right about Swiftboat/boot. It is the most unattractive aspect of the GOP and slowly the other side is learning…..BS goes a long way further than it should. Keep it up and you will start loosing the few decent republicans left…..
September 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Wow - BB - you can really really dig for one item that stands on your side of the issue despite the overwhelming response of almost everyone. I’m impressed. But here’s a little thing I posted at PJM yesterday for your perusal:
The bottom line, whether we agree that it was a slur against Palin, politically tin-eared, or deliberately misinterpreted, we can all find one nexus of agreement. It was politically stupid.
And that is important.
Why?
Because Obama himself explained that he does too have executive experience, he is after all running a campaign for President! (Shhh - don’t tell his campaign MANAGER) For months and months and months he has displayed his vast expertise at management. Sigh.
Any executive of any company large or small would not make this amateurish mistake. To quote Obama “words have meaning”.
So let’s judge him on his own two standards, words, and managing his campaign.
On both counts he proves that electing him to the Presidency would do devastating harm to America, both at home and abroad.
Perhaps that’s why Putin wants him to be elected so badly.
Obama is a lawyer, which by definition is someone who parses language. At the very least this showed poor judgment. But you are entitled to defend him for it BB, just as some 87% in this poll disagree with you.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I’m sure you were just as outraged about Webb’s phony offense at Allen’s use of the word ‘macaca’?
That’s what I thought.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:07 am
BB.
“Swiftboaters” were true American heroes who used truth to cut the legs from phony democrat.
“Swift boot” is what the public , who will do the same thing to Obama, another phony democrat.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
RP,
We all have our opinions about the Swiftboaters. You are welcome to yours.
As are these ‘true American heroes”
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
You no doubt recall McCain’s observation on the swiftboat creeps….
“Please do not try to blame Republicans because Obama stepped in shit.”
I will blame whomsoever deserves it, and watch your language young man, it reflects poorly on the party you are trying to represent
Kathy,
I didn’t know what to make of the ‘macaca’ thing, having never heard the term.
You think it swayed the electorate?
Personally, I have always liked McCain. He is his own man. I think he was treated very shabbily by Rove/Bush, criminally IMHO. He is known as a man of honor, and
I believe he would not stoop as low as lately, but Rove & crew are helping out..it surely smells that way. You are right. I can tolerate Republicans, even conservatives, but the Lee Attwater/Karl Rove types deserve their BS back in spades. Used car salesmen should stay in their field…….
September 11th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
The macaca comment torpedoed Allen who lost by less than one per cent in VA in 2006. Believe me, I was dismayed.
However, the problem Obama has with this lipstick remark is that he’s already been accused of sexism from the PUMAs within his own party. He is more than a little vulnerable on that score. I hardly think that Rove, the magnificent b@st@rd is to blame because Obama made a terrible remark. That sounds a little berserk to me.
Link.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
BTW - he said Boston, from the People’s Republic of Massachusetts. It’s not just republicans making hay over a political misstep - it is some mighty angry women.
It explains the precipitous drop in female support, don’t you think, BB?
September 11th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I’d rather doubt Hillary supporters will care for Sarah, but who knows? LIke its a reversible equation thing where they would switch their allegiances back and forth, so that Palin types would leave en mass for Hillary? Doubt it, though Massachussitts and the NE turning GOP…interesting.
Hey! How did you get B@st@rd’s e-mail address? Lotta good it would do,
his records mysteriously disappear….
September 11th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
It’s not about the Hill supporters, BB, it’s about independents, but the evidence is there that in this 50-50 country, a discouragement of part of his base would be almost as devastating as a vote for the other guy.
That wasn’t an email - just trying to camoflage the common moniker for Rove.
What is a ‘Palin type’ exactly? (Careful, you might want to think before you write any sexist garbage… not that “palin-type’ doesn’t already sound sexist…)
September 11th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
BB.
Not all dems were hillary supporters. that is why she lost to a novice politician.
We are going after those supporters who are not feminazi’s. Those who are mom’s, which is a dirty word to leftist feminists.
September 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Hey, isn’t accuring me of being sexist ’sexist’? Hopefully, you would appreciate that I hired (for the first time ever, over the objections of a ton of good ol boys) women in explosives labwork and hands-on production. HR informed that the EEO for women professionals went up 45% at our three plants. So, just to avoid any sexism, I would just observe that the GOP VP candidate is a strong conservative; the Hillary ladies I know are strong liberals…so oil & water, etc. Thanks a lot, Kathy…now I have to find and retract the e-mail I sent to b@st@rd.![:-\](http://hangrightpolitics.com/smilies/yahoo_question.gif ":-\")
“
September 11th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Well you get three extra corn chex in your cereal bowl for hiring women. They probably did a great job and you are a little less sexist than the good old boys.
Catholic women usually support the dem ticket - but abortion isn’t their main reason. There’s a few of them that actually fell for the idea that the democrats are for equality - when in fact dems only care about abortion. If they cared about equality they could at least celebrate Governor Palin’s achievements as the first female governor in Alaska, the first female vp candidate for the GOP, president of the AK mayoral association, and an energy expert (recognized by Newsweek no less - last year) . Instead they are out bashing her parenthood and mocking her faith. A more narrowminded and bigoted response I’ve never seen - and I was on the front lines of the women’s movement - perhaps you missed my post on Palin Feminism? I put a wee chemistry joke in it just for you.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Here’s a little information for you re Hillary voters:
Source.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
You know it seems when ever I am gone for a couple of days you “typical white people” really get out of hand…….Now I know that every one is excited about Palin…….and from everything that I can see McCain made a very smart move in selecting her…she has energized the republican base and the campaign…..But tell me are we not play “sexist” card……So is Palin going to have the corner on words now…she used the word “lipstick:” so now that word is off limits…….This is not the first time that Obama or McCain(McCain used it when Hillary was running) have used this phrase and is a common phrase but now that Sarah has the corner on words “lipstick” is out of bounds….Just think whats going to happen next if Sarah uses a word like “perfume” or “make-up” to describe herself…..this is the very thing all of you complain about when it comes to politics…..but now that you feel it is working for you then all the better…..There is no way Obama was referring to Palin as a pig and for you all to be so upset about it is beyond me……..Any way she is a big girl in the big race……….
Obama in ‘08….The fight has just begun
September 11th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Hey Bruce,
You are so right, she is a big girl and as far as I’ve seen she hasn’t said one word about it. The campaign issued a release asking for an apology, but I don’t think she’s sweating it one bit.
It’s not Palin who is offended - so that is really missing the point. Women are offended. You may not have gotten the joke, but the crowd behind Obama did - no matter - it really is a minor point. The way I see it is that it was tacky and amateurish, and shows a want of tact. As the leader of the free world- that could be - inconvenient for us?. It was a mistake and it backfired.
I’ve been over at the Washington Post reading an article by Howard Kurtz. It’s not an article really, more of a campaign commercial for Obama, doing his dirty work, full of lies, easily debunked lies. which is in fact what happened in the comment section.
Wow. I’ve never seen so many angry people. I often read the Wash Po for the same reason you come here Bruce, to see what the opposition is thinking. Well, color me surprised. I have never seen so many, hundreds, of angry people
People want their free press back, and many many women are very angry with Obama because the perception he looks down on women, the lipstick remark is believable because of his previous treatment of Hillary (in their eyes).
Mostly though, they were telling the Washington Post to get over itself.